the fourth is on governoring and the 5th is role of government. all of these things will dominate the discussion, but romney is planning after this coming debate on wednesday, before the policy speech on the week before the vice-president debates, the attempts by the romney ryan campaign, to go beyond the economy and try to do the whole campaign contrast in the last four years. >> an exciting time for all the americans who said now, carl, they'll tune in more, leading up to the debate. thank you, campaign carl, good to see you. moving on now to president obama and his visit in the swing state of nevada tonight. the president arrives in las vegas a short time ago and we're told the president will remain in nevada before wednesday preparing for the debate. on this sunday, some of the president's advisors making rounds on talk shows, and the white house advisor plouffe seeming to look at the chances for the debate giving romney the upper hand. >> now, challengers tend to do really well on debates and that's the history. and we believed all along that